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lobolance ([personal profile] lobolance) wrote2011-03-07 03:14 pm
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a feminism for monsters

There are a lot of *amazing* as well as horrifying posts in the blogosphere right now, in response to, or in this case re-brought up, the exclusion of trans women at a Lilith ritual at Pantheacon this year (Patheacon is awesome!). The communication problem (not advertised correctly) has been apologized for, etc etc.

But this post says it so well; I think Lilith would be pleased*: the seam of skin and scales. It's from 2007. 

*It's not my place to tell others what to believe/how to express their spirituality, but I delight in broadening the view. Nasty witch boy me!

[identity profile] trinsf.livejournal.com 2011-03-08 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
So today I'm thinking about the "gendered spirit", which is one of the ideas that has been part of the Pcon discussion. It seemsl like some of the debate has involved this idea that there is a gendered spirit, or that the location of gender determines the speakers position on TG folks in gendered ritual.

So, do you think that spirits or souls are gendered? What do you think of the idea of locating "spiritual gender" as a ritual gatekeeping device?

[identity profile] bridgeweaver.livejournal.com 2011-03-08 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
First of all, thank you thank you thank you for showing me just how little I really know. That piece was amazing and thank you for showing it to me.

I have been frequently impressed in the last couple of weeks as the Pcon debate has played out about how little I really know. I know what my heart tells me, but the experiences I am reading/hearing about are fundamentally assaulting my assumptions re: gender that I have believed were very inclusive and not subject to the traps of "normative" society. If nothing else comes out of the Pcon mess, maybe it will at least cause a few of us, sure in our self-definitions of openness and compassion to confront the true otherness of an experience we don't share. I think that's always a good thing.